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		<title>By: Bulgarian Experience &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2008-05-25</title>
		<link>http://chronicle.dsgndvlp.com/2008/05/giving-good-feedback/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>Bulgarian Experience &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2008-05-25</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 09:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Designer’s Guide to Giving Good Feedback &#124; the chronicle of a designerd Списък с напътствия, които да даваш на клиентите си, когато за пръв път им представяш дизайн. Какво да гледат и какво да не гледат. (tags: GraphicDesign process) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Designer’s Guide to Giving Good Feedback | the chronicle of a designerd Списък с напътствия, които да даваш на клиентите си, когато за пръв път им представяш дизайн. Какво да гледат и какво да не гледат. (tags: GraphicDesign process) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
		<link>http://chronicle.dsgndvlp.com/2008/05/giving-good-feedback/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 22:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like a really great way to further the client - designer relationship.  I like it most because it builds a sense of trust between you and the client. Its kind of like a no BS policy - which it looks like DSGN + DVLP practices.  Good job and good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a really great way to further the client - designer relationship.  I like it most because it builds a sense of trust between you and the client. Its kind of like a no BS policy - which it looks like DSGN + DVLP practices.  Good job and good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
		<link>http://chronicle.dsgndvlp.com/2008/05/giving-good-feedback/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 13:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the list.

My one (verbose) suggestion:

When critiquing, DO Provide problems, DON'T provide solutions. Instead of saying "replace the font with Arial" let us know what you are trying to accomplish from that. Does the current font or logo feel too formal? Let us know the problems, and we'll find you a solution that really works. It's what we do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the list.</p>
<p>My one (verbose) suggestion:</p>
<p>When critiquing, DO Provide problems, DON&#8217;T provide solutions. Instead of saying &#8220;replace the font with Arial&#8221; let us know what you are trying to accomplish from that. Does the current font or logo feel too formal? Let us know the problems, and we&#8217;ll find you a solution that really works. It&#8217;s what we do.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://chronicle.dsgndvlp.com/2008/05/giving-good-feedback/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 21:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good list you guys have going on here. 

I would add to the Don´t something i always tell my clients: 
If you anyway took it to the committee, don´t collect all the comments in one e-mail and send it to us before you first read trough them yourself. More often than not comment number 6 from the chief engineer will be in direct conflict of comment number 2 from the PR-departement. 

And to the Do´s something vital (imho):
If you are not sure what you think of the design, sleep over it and take a second look tomorrow morning. This is better than to reply in  30 min with one message and then change everything with another message tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good list you guys have going on here. </p>
<p>I would add to the Don´t something i always tell my clients:<br />
If you anyway took it to the committee, don´t collect all the comments in one e-mail and send it to us before you first read trough them yourself. More often than not comment number 6 from the chief engineer will be in direct conflict of comment number 2 from the PR-departement. </p>
<p>And to the Do´s something vital (imho):<br />
If you are not sure what you think of the design, sleep over it and take a second look tomorrow morning. This is better than to reply in  30 min with one message and then change everything with another message tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Schutzsmith</title>
		<link>http://chronicle.dsgndvlp.com/2008/05/giving-good-feedback/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Schutzsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 15:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Patrick: Thanks for the compliment! Glad you like them and if you use them and adapt be sure to let us know.

@Able: Thanks for bringing that post to our attention.  I've linked it up as further reading.  Great site btw!  And your company name is absolutely right on - I can tell you're all probably smart asses just like us! ;)

@Omar: You're suggestions are great!  I think we'll definitely start using them for our guidelines.

@John: You're cracking us up over here!  Obviously we'd never say anything like that to our clients but it sure is funny.

@Geoff: Thanks for the compliment and feel free to spread the word!

@David: Thanks man!  On your OT, we installed &lt;a href="http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/live-comment-preview/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Live Comment Preview&lt;/a&gt; - its pretty nice but we need to tweak the styles a little bit. Do you know what the comments plugin is that you used?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Patrick: Thanks for the compliment! Glad you like them and if you use them and adapt be sure to let us know.</p>
<p>@Able: Thanks for bringing that post to our attention.  I&#8217;ve linked it up as further reading.  Great site btw!  And your company name is absolutely right on - I can tell you&#8217;re all probably smart asses just like us! <img src='http://chronicle.dsgndvlp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Omar: You&#8217;re suggestions are great!  I think we&#8217;ll definitely start using them for our guidelines.</p>
<p>@John: You&#8217;re cracking us up over here!  Obviously we&#8217;d never say anything like that to our clients but it sure is funny.</p>
<p>@Geoff: Thanks for the compliment and feel free to spread the word!</p>
<p>@David: Thanks man!  On your OT, we installed <a href="http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/live-comment-preview/" rel="nofollow">Live Comment Preview</a> - its pretty nice but we need to tweak the styles a little bit. Do you know what the comments plugin is that you used?</p>
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		<title>By: David Airey</title>
		<link>http://chronicle.dsgndvlp.com/2008/05/giving-good-feedback/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>David Airey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 14:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love it, Dan. Great pointers.

Off-topic (sorry), how do you get that real-time comment preview to appear? Pretty neat.

One tip is to include the 'subscribe to comments' plugin for WordPress. It's definitely one of my 'can't do without' additions.

David Aireys last blog post..&lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/CreativeDesign/~3/293511161/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Creative roundup 19 May 2008&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love it, Dan. Great pointers.</p>
<p>Off-topic (sorry), how do you get that real-time comment preview to appear? Pretty neat.</p>
<p>One tip is to include the &#8217;subscribe to comments&#8217; plugin for WordPress. It&#8217;s definitely one of my &#8216;can&#8217;t do without&#8217; additions.</p>
<p>David Aireys last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/CreativeDesign/~3/293511161/" rel="nofollow">Creative roundup 19 May 2008</a></p>
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		<title>By: eismann-sf &#187; Getting Good Feedback from Clients</title>
		<link>http://chronicle.dsgndvlp.com/2008/05/giving-good-feedback/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>eismann-sf &#187; Getting Good Feedback from Clients</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 08:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] gem, from DSGN+DVLP, the designer&#8217;s guide for getting good feedback. Their points, I feel, are very much on the mark and apply to many contexts, including even within [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] gem, from DSGN+DVLP, the designer&#8217;s guide for getting good feedback. Their points, I feel, are very much on the mark and apply to many contexts, including even within [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
		<link>http://chronicle.dsgndvlp.com/2008/05/giving-good-feedback/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 01:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very good stuff guys.  absolute necessity, clients need this to be helped through the process.

If you don't mind, I will adopt a few of these ideas in our processes.

http://www.lifecaptureinc.com/blog/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very good stuff guys.  absolute necessity, clients need this to be helped through the process.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t mind, I will adopt a few of these ideas in our processes.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lifecaptureinc.com/blog/" rel="nofollow">http://www.lifecaptureinc.com/blog/</a></p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 00:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DON'T:

- For christ's sake, please, for the love of god, say "Can we make the logo bigger"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DON&#8217;T:</p>
<p>- For christ&#8217;s sake, please, for the love of god, say &#8220;Can we make the logo bigger&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Omar Capers</title>
		<link>http://chronicle.dsgndvlp.com/2008/05/giving-good-feedback/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Omar Capers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 20:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, everyone. 

This is a great! I think design critique guidelines for clients are long overdue. My clients are exclusively internal; they're project managers who are engineers and scientist, and often have no clue about design and don't really know how to critique a design using a language that a graphic designer could understand. Furthermore they broker the design work for their clients who are in the same boat. The end result is much heart-ache, back and forth and a much watered down design.

I think the guidelines can help steer the client and designer towards the goal of communicating with the target audience. 

I would suggest to add to the list of Dos:
Do determine if the design communicates your message/brand idea clearly; jot down your impressions and discuss them with the designer.

To the list of Don'ts:
Don't make major formatting/design changes that you think might 'fix' the design if the draft makes you unhappy. While you should trust the designer's ability to properly execute the idea, it's more important to determine if the work is getting your message to your audience or not and to describe why or why not as best you can. 

(in so many words)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, everyone. </p>
<p>This is a great! I think design critique guidelines for clients are long overdue. My clients are exclusively internal; they&#8217;re project managers who are engineers and scientist, and often have no clue about design and don&#8217;t really know how to critique a design using a language that a graphic designer could understand. Furthermore they broker the design work for their clients who are in the same boat. The end result is much heart-ache, back and forth and a much watered down design.</p>
<p>I think the guidelines can help steer the client and designer towards the goal of communicating with the target audience. </p>
<p>I would suggest to add to the list of Dos:<br />
Do determine if the design communicates your message/brand idea clearly; jot down your impressions and discuss them with the designer.</p>
<p>To the list of Don&#8217;ts:<br />
Don&#8217;t make major formatting/design changes that you think might &#8216;fix&#8217; the design if the draft makes you unhappy. While you should trust the designer&#8217;s ability to properly execute the idea, it&#8217;s more important to determine if the work is getting your message to your audience or not and to describe why or why not as best you can. </p>
<p>(in so many words)</p>
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