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		<title>By: Creative roundup 19 May 2008 &#124; Dalton Trent's Blog</title>
		<link>http://chronicle.dsgndvlp.com/2008/05/defining-online-visibility/#comment-113</link>
		<dc:creator>Creative roundup 19 May 2008 &#124; Dalton Trent's Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 12:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Creative roundup 19 May 2008 &#124; David Airey :: Graphic and Logo Designer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Creative roundup 19 May 2008 &#124; David Airey :: Graphic and Logo Designer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 14:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Daniel Schutzsmith</title>
		<link>http://chronicle.dsgndvlp.com/2008/05/defining-online-visibility/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Schutzsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 15:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@EpikDave: We'd definitely say that Online Visibility is applicable to a brand.  Now if that brand is a person or company remains to be seen on a project by project basis.  Your view on search engine ranking in OV seems to echo the other comments here, so I am led to believe that it IS definitely very important to the OV definition.  Thanks for the Modernista! link - thats excellent!  A really terrific way or using social media and web apps in a guerilla marketing/website hijacking kind of way! ;)

@Elaine Young: Great take on OV!  You said two words that really stand out to me as &lt;strong&gt;exactly&lt;/strong&gt; what we are going for: "authentic" and "intentional". You're such an &lt;a href="http://www.kaushik.net/avinash/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Avinash&lt;/a&gt; groupie!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@EpikDave: We&#8217;d definitely say that Online Visibility is applicable to a brand.  Now if that brand is a person or company remains to be seen on a project by project basis.  Your view on search engine ranking in OV seems to echo the other comments here, so I am led to believe that it IS definitely very important to the OV definition.  Thanks for the Modernista! link - thats excellent!  A really terrific way or using social media and web apps in a guerilla marketing/website hijacking kind of way! <img src='http://chronicle.dsgndvlp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Elaine Young: Great take on OV!  You said two words that really stand out to me as <strong>exactly</strong> what we are going for: &#8220;authentic&#8221; and &#8220;intentional&#8221;. You&#8217;re such an <a href="http://www.kaushik.net/avinash/" rel="nofollow">Avinash</a> groupie!</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine Young</title>
		<link>http://chronicle.dsgndvlp.com/2008/05/defining-online-visibility/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaine Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 17:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan:

In my mind Online Visibility is at its most simple, the practice of public relations online. Consider what it is that a PR professional engages in.  Pre-internet they were responsible for working closely with the media (read there, news media) to get coverage of their organization/client.  Today, the definition of "media" is much broader and includes many different channels.

When engaging in Online Visiblity, a person is utilizing online tools in an intentional and authentic way to increase the relevance and credibility of their brand.  

These tools are any that are currently in use such as SEO, SEM, Blogging, Social Networking, Micro-blogging (Twitter) and...any of those tools we don't quite know about yet.

For example, I blog.  You blog.  You sent me an email letting me know about this discussion and my Google Alert tipped me off, so I blogged about it, and then came over here and wrote this post. In my blog, I linked to your "linkedin profile" and refrenced your new gig AND your teaching for me.

That process just increased your online vis, my online vis AND both of our SEO rankings.

Hmm...it's such a wonderful web we weave!

See you soon at Online Marketing Bootcamp here in Burlington!  Looking forward to your presentation...but must be honest that I'm really looking forward to meeting Avinash!

&lt;span class=\'commentluv\'&gt;Elaine Youngs last blog post..&lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/champlainprofessor/~3/292408099/dog-and-pony-shows-its-all-about-social.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Dog and Pony Shows -- it's all about Social Media&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan:</p>
<p>In my mind Online Visibility is at its most simple, the practice of public relations online. Consider what it is that a PR professional engages in.  Pre-internet they were responsible for working closely with the media (read there, news media) to get coverage of their organization/client.  Today, the definition of &#8220;media&#8221; is much broader and includes many different channels.</p>
<p>When engaging in Online Visiblity, a person is utilizing online tools in an intentional and authentic way to increase the relevance and credibility of their brand.  </p>
<p>These tools are any that are currently in use such as SEO, SEM, Blogging, Social Networking, Micro-blogging (Twitter) and&#8230;any of those tools we don&#8217;t quite know about yet.</p>
<p>For example, I blog.  You blog.  You sent me an email letting me know about this discussion and my Google Alert tipped me off, so I blogged about it, and then came over here and wrote this post. In my blog, I linked to your &#8220;linkedin profile&#8221; and refrenced your new gig AND your teaching for me.</p>
<p>That process just increased your online vis, my online vis AND both of our SEO rankings.</p>
<p>Hmm&#8230;it&#8217;s such a wonderful web we weave!</p>
<p>See you soon at Online Marketing Bootcamp here in Burlington!  Looking forward to your presentation&#8230;but must be honest that I&#8217;m really looking forward to meeting Avinash!</p>
<p><span class=\'commentluv\'>Elaine Youngs last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/champlainprofessor/~3/292408099/dog-and-pony-shows-its-all-about-social.html" rel="nofollow">Dog and Pony Shows &#8212; it&#8217;s all about Social Media</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: EpikDave</title>
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		<dc:creator>EpikDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 14:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dan,

Thanks for the props in the post! Following the thread from David and Naomi, I'd look to define if you are talking about Online Visibility for an individual or a company. For an individual it is important to have a consistent profile, message, etc. across all the social networks that are important to their visibility. For a company, I would agree that now search engine listings become important because they improve the company's visibility. 

One company taking the "extreme" approach is Modernista - http://modernista.com — they don't have a true site but rather pull in all their online touch points to piece together an online presence. A bit extremist but they get the point across!

Dave
Epik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dan,</p>
<p>Thanks for the props in the post! Following the thread from David and Naomi, I&#8217;d look to define if you are talking about Online Visibility for an individual or a company. For an individual it is important to have a consistent profile, message, etc. across all the social networks that are important to their visibility. For a company, I would agree that now search engine listings become important because they improve the company&#8217;s visibility. </p>
<p>One company taking the &#8220;extreme&#8221; approach is Modernista - <a href="http://modernista.com" rel="nofollow">http://modernista.com</a> — they don&#8217;t have a true site but rather pull in all their online touch points to piece together an online presence. A bit extremist but they get the point across!</p>
<p>Dave<br />
Epik</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Schutzsmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Schutzsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 06:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Naomi: Good question!  I think I may have to extend my definition a bit then! With my understanding, OV places more emphasis on the visual appearance of a brand (as David suggests), but it definitely should not neglect the importance of search engine ranking, nor ignore the influence that OV itself can have on changing search engine ranking.

@David: Great observation! I am wondering if Online Appearance is more of what I had in mind when I originally wrote this.  I think that search engine ranking should also play a part so back to the drawing boards I go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Naomi: Good question!  I think I may have to extend my definition a bit then! With my understanding, OV places more emphasis on the visual appearance of a brand (as David suggests), but it definitely should not neglect the importance of search engine ranking, nor ignore the influence that OV itself can have on changing search engine ranking.</p>
<p>@David: Great observation! I am wondering if Online Appearance is more of what I had in mind when I originally wrote this.  I think that search engine ranking should also play a part so back to the drawing boards I go.</p>
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		<title>By: David Airey</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Airey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 13:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Daniel,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As Naomi asks, I'm curious why your definition of online visibility doesn't include search engine rankings. To me it seems a little more like 'online appearance' i.e. how you look to those who have found you.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That said, appearance is vital, and no matter what is said to the contrary, people judge a book by its cover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Daniel,</p>
<p>As Naomi asks, I&#8217;m curious why your definition of online visibility doesn&#8217;t include search engine rankings. To me it seems a little more like &#8216;online appearance&#8217; i.e. how you look to those who have found you.</p>
<p>That said, appearance is vital, and no matter what is said to the contrary, people judge a book by its cover.</p>
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		<title>By: Naomi Rosenboim</title>
		<link>http://chronicle.dsgndvlp.com/2008/05/defining-online-visibility/#comment-2</link>
		<dc:creator>Naomi Rosenboim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 11:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the informative article.  It was interesting to note how the definition of SMO evolved over time.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Regarding your definition of Online Visibility, I do agree with a large portion of it.  However you state that it is "...visual branding of a person or entity across multiple websites..."&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I was wondering why you did not choose to define Online Visibility by search engine ranking.  In today's Internet world, it is the search engines that are defining the what we see and perceive at a certain time.  Search engines (regardless of their tactics et cetera) are molding our culture and society to the knowledge it spews out and ranks as number one.  Wouldn't it make sense, that by creating a web presence on multiple websites, you can propel your online visibility higher on search engines or something of that sort, hence the "visibility" aspect of the term?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I would be keen to hear what you think : )&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks, &lt;br/&gt;Naomi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the informative article.  It was interesting to note how the definition of SMO evolved over time.</p>
<p>Regarding your definition of Online Visibility, I do agree with a large portion of it.  However you state that it is &#8220;&#8230;visual branding of a person or entity across multiple websites&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I was wondering why you did not choose to define Online Visibility by search engine ranking.  In today&#8217;s Internet world, it is the search engines that are defining the what we see and perceive at a certain time.  Search engines (regardless of their tactics et cetera) are molding our culture and society to the knowledge it spews out and ranks as number one.  Wouldn&#8217;t it make sense, that by creating a web presence on multiple websites, you can propel your online visibility higher on search engines or something of that sort, hence the &#8220;visibility&#8221; aspect of the term?</p>
<p>I would be keen to hear what you think : )</p>
<p>Thanks, <br />Naomi</p>
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